Pub Data

The tables below show the pubs for which we either have no photos at all or the photos that we do have need updating.
Some may be closed & boarded up, but we'd like photos of those as well in case they never reopen.

It's coming up tor summer now and the ideal time of year to take exterior photos (see below) so get out there and see if you can get a nice sunny photo of any of the pubs listed below or shown on our map.

The best way to send us photos is through our upload facility: https://www.shantscamra.org.uk/beer/photos/

Below are some photo tips from pub photographer Mick Slaughter.

Pub Exteriors

Put simply, taking a photo of a pub when the sun is shining on the front of it and with a blue sky background gives you the perfect picture.

So to take excellent photos of your pubs just turn up at the appropriate time of a sunny day i.e.

If a pub faces East – about 9am
If a pub faces South East – mid morning
If a pub faces South – midday
If a pub faces South West – early afternoon
If a pub faces West –late afternoon

Which leaves pubs facing North, North East or North West which are a challenge – they only have sun on the front of them in the months of May June, July and early August – North / North East ones about 8am in the morning (when the sun has risen high enough) and North / North West ones about 6/7pm in the evening (before the sun has fallen too far and only covers part of the pub).

If the pub has two good sides then aim to photograph it when the sun is on both sides.

Another consideration for exteriors is avoiding converging verticals i.e. sides of the pub sloping in a pointed way, or even just getting the photo straight. To minimise this take your photograph from as far away from the pub as possible. As long as there is plenty of border around the pub it is possible to correct converging verticals and straightness using Photoshop or similar.

Pubs without Photograph (2)
[View all these pubs and ones needing new photos on a map]
Winchester and North-East
PubPhoto tips (if any) and Whatpub Link
Naked Grape, Alresford Naked Grape WhatPub Link
Royal Winchester Golf Club NW - late summer afternoon
Royal Winchester Golf Club WhatPub Link

Search results for pubs that need a new photo for one reason or another (43)

Please submit any news to pubdatabase@shantscamra.org.uk.

Chandler's Ford — Eastleigh and South-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Village Hotel, Chandler's Ford  
HAS/00953

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Village Hotel, Chandler's Ford
Bournemouth Road, Chandler's Ford, SO53 3YJ
(023) 8202 7760
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3623 date: 06/03/2024
Suitability comment:
No: A bit boring, didn't have time to compose.
 
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Fair Oak — Eastleigh and South-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Old George, Fair Oak  
HAS/00168

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Old George, Fair Oak
The Square, Fair Oak, SO50 7AN
(023) 8060 2222
Previous Name(s): George;Old George
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3526 date: 25/06/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Nearly OK but shadows
 
Photo tips: Faces N (Fair Oak Road frontage) and E (B3354 frontage). Pub has car park to the south so shooting from SE (morning) will work. About 07:30 midsummer for the N view but not worth it. Try mid-morning.

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Shedfield — Eastleigh and South-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Old Forge Inn, Shedfield  
HAS/00363

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Old Forge Inn, Shedfield
Winchester Road, Shedfield, SO32 2HS
(01329) 833610
Previous Name(s): Vintage Inn; Black Horse
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1759 date: 20/04/2013
Suitability comment:
No: As of 18/11/2021 the front conservatory is being demolished.
 
Photo tips: W - afternoons.

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Ashford — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Railway Hotel, Ashford  
HAS/00009

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Railway Hotel, Ashford
116 Station Road, Ashford, SP6 1DG
(01425) 653388
Previous Name(s): Augustus John;Load of Hay;Railway Hotel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2977 date: 21/06/2020
Suitability comment:
No: Taken before refurb finished, no pub name?
 
Photo tips: Faces S and E, best for sun in morning.

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Bowling Green — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Old Mill, Bowling Green  
HAS/00829

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Old Mill, Bowling Green
Silver Street, Bowling Green, SO41 6DJ
(01590) 682219
Alternative Name(s): Mill at Gordleton
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3629 date: 06/03/2024
Suitability comment:
No: Will look better in spring/summer with leaves on the vines.
 
Photo tips: Faces SE. Morning best though be aware of tree to the S that may shade it.

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Eling — New Forest and West (Waterside)
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
King Rufus, Eling  
HAS/00158

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King Rufus, Eling
Eling Hill, Eling, SO40 9HE
(023) 8086 3980
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2406 date: 16/06/2016
Suitability comment:
No: Redecorated - different colour & signage
 
Photo tips: ESE - best in the morning.

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Keyhaven — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Gun Inn, Keyhaven  
HAS/00228

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Gun Inn, Keyhaven
Keyhaven Road, Keyhaven, SO41 0TP
(01590) 642391
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 233 date: 24/07/2010
Suitability comment:
No: Redecorated and has lost its mass of hanging baskets.
 
Photo tips: Faces NE: Summer morning.

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Linwood — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Red Shoot Inn, Linwood  
HAS/00235

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Red Shoot Inn, Linwood
Toms Lane, Linwood, BH24 3QT
(01425) 475792
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 643 date: 03/04/2011
Suitability comment:
No: Repainted different colours.
 
Photo tips: Faces SW with a secondary NW face. Best mid-late afternoon, probably summer to avoid shadows.

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Lyndhurst — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Stag Hotel, Lyndhurst  
HAS/00274

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Stag Hotel, Lyndhurst
69 High Street, Lyndhurst, SO43 7BE
(023) 8028 2999
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1126 date: 27/11/2010
Suitability comment:
No: A bit dull and a cropping botch job to try and get the car out.
 
Photo tips:

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Milford on Sea — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Smugglers Inn, Milford on Sea  
HAS/00285

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Smugglers Inn, Milford on Sea
High Street, Milford on Sea, SO41 0QE
(01590) 644414
Previous Name(s): Crown Inn
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3583 date: 15/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: wrong sun angle
 
Photo tips: Faces NNE: Early midsummer morning.

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Mount Pleasant — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Brew Forest, Mount Pleasant  
HAS/00944

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Brew Forest, Mount Pleasant
Units B1-B2, Setters Farm Workshops, Mount Pleasant Lane Lymington SO41 8LS, Mount Pleasant, SO41 8LS
None
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3401 date: 11/03/2022
Suitability comment:
No: Taken on a dull day
 
Photo tips: Faces SW/NW - late summer afternoon

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Netley Marsh — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
White Horse, Netley Marsh  
HAS/00292

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White Horse, Netley Marsh
Ringwood Road, Netley Marsh, SO40 7GX
(023) 8086 8255
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3132 date: 06/07/2020
Suitability comment:
No: Temporary tent at front. Try a summer after Covid-19.
 
Photo tips: Faces NNE. Best very early summer morning, about 07:30 should do. Beware of burnout on White Horse writing.

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Ringwood — New Forest and West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Crown Tap, Ringwood  
HAS/00328

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Crown Tap, Ringwood
4 Southampton Road, Ringwood, BH24 1HY
(01425) 478199
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2987 date: 21/06/2020
Suitability comment:
No: The sun went in & blue skies went, but it's not too bad.
 
Photo tips: Faces WNW. Builds opposite likely to cast a shadow late so take from SW early afternoon and preferably summer for best sun angle.

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Lamb Inn, Ringwood  
HAS/00334

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Lamb Inn, Ringwood
2 Hightown Road, Ringwood, BH24 1NW
(01425) 524013
Alternative Name(s): Ringwood Steakhouse
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 428 date: 30/12/2010
Suitability comment:
No: Colour & signage change.
 
Photo tips: Faces WNW (steakhouse side) and NNE (Lamb side). Late summer evening maybe.

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Romsey — Romsey and North-West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Bishop Blaize, Romsey  
HAS/00343

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Bishop Blaize, Romsey
4 Winchester Road, Romsey, SO51 8AA
07891 293459
Previous Name(s): Bishops Blaize;Bishop Blaize
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1327 date: 02/02/2013
Suitability comment:
No: The 's' has been lost from the name.
 
Photo tips:

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Cocky Anchor, Romsey  
HAS/00937

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Cocky Anchor, Romsey
8 Market Place, Romsey, SO51 8NB
(01794) 337701
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3319 date: 23/04/2021
Suitability comment:
No: Sun in reflections but not on the pub itself.
 
Photo tips: Faces E. Avoid a sunny day where you get lots of reflections of the market in the front windows. Or shoot from an oblique angle.

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Exchange, Romsey  
HAS/00936

[gMap]
Exchange, Romsey
14 Market Place, Romsey, SO51 8NA
07840 366438
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3323 date: 22/04/2021
Suitability comment:
No: A bit of a busy scene with a little bin in the foreground.
 
Photo tips: Faces SSW. Any sunny day but perhaps when not too busy.

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Nightingale, Romsey  
HAS/00359

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Nightingale, Romsey
45 Latimer Street, Romsey, SO51 8DF
(01794) 501916
Previous Name(s): Tipsy Pig; William IV
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3588 date: 27/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Taken on a dull day
 
Photo tips: Faces W. Pub is recessed back from building to the S so will be shaded unless sun angle is from W. Best late afternoon summer.

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Olive, Romsey  
HAS/00352

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Olive, Romsey
11 Latimer Street, Romsey, SO51 8DF
(01794) 503444
Previous Name(s): Olive Tree;Judge's Bar & Brasserie
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1321 date: 02/02/2013
Suitability comment:
No: Partially in shadow and name change
 
Photo tips: Faces E with S aspect. Early afternoon on a sunny day, perhaps not winter to avoid shadows.

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Romsey Rugby Club, Romsey  
HAS/00952

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Romsey Rugby Club, Romsey
Ganger Farm Pavilion, Ganger Farm Sports Park, Ganger Farm Way, Romsey, SO51 0EE
(01794) 519400
 
Club
Open
 
Image ID 3525 date: 10/06/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Could do with sun on West side of club
 
Photo tips: Faces W. Afternoon. Club door is on S face but a really boring shot.

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Timsbury — Romsey and North-West
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Goat, Timsbury  
HAS/00621

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Goat, Timsbury
Stockbridge Road, Timsbury, SO51 0NG
(01794) 337777
Previous Name(s): Malthouse
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2793 date: 03/05/2019
Suitability comment:
No: It's only the sign
 
Photo tips: Faces NE. Early summer morning but probably shadowed.

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Southampton — Southampton
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Angel, Southampton  
HAS/00377

[gMap]
Angel, Southampton
Palmerston Road, City, Southampton, SO14 1LL
(023) 8194 1133
Previous Name(s): Angel of the South; Angel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3580 date: 13/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: taken on a dull day
 
Photo tips: Faces W/N - sunny summer afternoon/evening

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Ava's, Southampton  
HAS/00369

[gMap]
Ava's, Southampton
25 Oxford Street, City, Southampton, SO14 3DJ
(023) 8017 8880
Previous Name(s): Tropic Bar;Prezzo;25 Oxford Street
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3575 date: 19/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Taken on a dull day.
 
Photo tips: Faces SSW & ESE. Best just before noon

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Bar Terminus, Southampton  
HAS/00422

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Bar Terminus, Southampton
13 Terminus Terrace, City, Southampton, SO14 3DT
(023) 8202 9955
Previous Name(s): Taberna 13;Flying Dutchman;Captains Place;Parkers;Antico;Court Jester;Tut & Shive;Captain's Corner;Parker's Hotel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3414 date: 26/04/2022
Suitability comment:
No: Quick shot at an awkward angle.
 
Photo tips: Faces E and N. Best very early summer morning.

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Bellemoor Tavern, Southampton  
HAS/00393

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Bellemoor Tavern, Southampton
250 Hill Lane, Upper Shirley, Southampton, SO15 7NU
(023) 8077 1495
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 902 date: 29/09/2012
Suitability comment:
No: New colours scheme, awning at front right.
 
Photo tips: Faces S/E - most sunny morning good.

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Bricklayer's Arms, Southampton  
HAS/00408

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Bricklayer's Arms, Southampton
165 Wimpson Lane, Wimpson, Southampton, SO16 4QD
(023) 8077 9045
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1055 date: 18/11/2012
Suitability comment:
No: It's been redecorated, but only minor changes.
 
Photo tips: Faces SE/NE, needs sun from E or ESE - summer morning.

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Dolphin, Southampton  
HAS/00431

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Dolphin, Southampton
30 Osborne Road South, St. Denys, Southampton, SO17 2EZ
(023) 8055 0277
Previous Name(s): Dolphin Inn
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3487 date: 22/03/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Lighting. Could do with sunny day.
 
Photo tips: Faces NNE - early summer morning might work.

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Elmina, Southampton  
HAS/00855

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Elmina, Southampton
104-106 Bevois Valley Road, Southampton, SO14 0JZ
07354 849858
Previous Name(s): Blue Box Bar & Grill
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2561 date: 28/07/2017
Suitability comment:
No: Name has changed
 
Photo tips:

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Hobbit, Southampton  
HAS/00479

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Hobbit, Southampton
134 Bevois Valley Road, Bevois Valley, Southampton, SO14 0JZ
(023) 8023 2591
Previous Name(s): Portswood Hotel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1836 date: 13/11/2011
Suitability comment:
No: Redecorated.
 
Photo tips:

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House of Hien, Southampton  
HAS/00797

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House of Hien, Southampton
35-36 Oxford Street, Southampton, SO14 3DS
(023) 8022 4444
Previous Name(s): Marco's Bar Ristorante;Simons Bar Kitchen;Simons at Oxfords
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2019 date: 03/05/2013
Suitability comment:
No: Several name changes and may not be all of the building now.
 
Photo tips:

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King Canute, Southampton  
HAS/00371

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King Canute, Southampton
Ferry House, Canute Road, City, Southampton, SO14 3FJ
(023) 8038 8940
Previous Name(s): Admiral Sir Lucius Curtis;Cork & Bottle
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3573 date: 19/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Taken on a dull day.
 
Photo tips: Faces N: Early morning or late evening midsummer. Car park side faces S so OK most of the time.

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Mbuntu Cocktail Bar & Bistro, Southampton  
HAS/00401

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Mbuntu Cocktail Bar & Bistro, Southampton
2-4 Cobden Avenue, Bitterne Park, Southampton, SO18 1FX
(023) 8194 3290
Previous Name(s): Bitterne Park Hotel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1241 date: 21/12/2012
Suitability comment:
No: Pub name has changed.
 
Photo tips: Faces NE.

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Mountbatten, Southampton  
HAS/00517

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Mountbatten, Southampton
Lordshill District Centre, Lordshill, Southampton, SO16 8HY
(023) 8122 2309
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2952 date: 16/06/2020
Suitability comment:
No: Pub has been repainted.
 
Photo tips: Entrance faces NNE but likely to be in shadow early morning. Mid morning may work.

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Papillon, Southampton  
HAS/00486

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Papillon, Southampton
Commercial Road, City, Southampton, SO15 1GG
(023) 8023 1101
Previous Name(s): Vestry; Joe Daflo's Café-Bar; Café Sol; Cloisters
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3348 date: 14/10/2021
Suitability comment:
No: A little in the shade
 
Photo tips: Faces S but needs sun high enough to avoid shadows from the theatre opposite.

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Salisbury Arms, Southampton  
HAS/00555

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Salisbury Arms, Southampton
126 Shirley High Street, Shirley, Southampton, SO16 4EZ
(023) 8184 0231
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3548 date: 19/08/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Could do with better light
 
Photo tips: Faces NE/NW difficult. Late Summer afternoon/evening may work. Difficult to keep traffic out of shot.

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Whiskey Blue, Southampton  
HAS/00954

[gMap]
Whiskey Blue, Southampton
129 High Street, Southampton, SO14 2BR
(023) 8039 2824
 
Pub
Closed (long term)
 
Image ID 3576 date: 19/09/2023
Suitability comment:
No: Taken on a dull day
 
Photo tips: Faces E: sunny summer morning.

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Winston, Southampton  
HAS/00605

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Winston, Southampton
51 Archers Road, Hill Lane, Southampton, SO15 2NF
(023) 8063 1504
Previous Name(s): Winston Hotel
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 2953 date: 11/03/2020
Suitability comment:
No: Says 'opening soon' so will become outdated. Indeed it has, new colour scheme
 
Photo tips: Faces S. Morning for south & east sides which have the clearer view through the trees.

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Alresford — Winchester and North-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Bell, Alresford  
HAS/00001

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Bell, Alresford
12 West Street, Alresford, SO24 9AT
(01962) 732429
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1040 date: 11/11/2012
Suitability comment:
No: new colour scheme.
 
Photo tips:

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Hursley — Winchester and North-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Hursley Sports and Social Club, Hursley  
HAS/00753

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Hursley Sports and Social Club, Hursley
The Clubhouse, Hursley Park, Hursley, SO21 2JN
(01962) 815933
Previous Name(s): IBM Hursley Club
 
Club
Open
 
Image ID 2085 date: 13/05/2013
Suitability comment:
No: Sky burnt out white
 
Photo tips: Faces SSW (entrance) or ESE to sports field. Trees may encumber view. Best morning or midday maybe. On private grounds with no Streetview.

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South Wonston — Winchester and North-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Drovers, South Wonston  
HAS/00857

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Drovers, South Wonston
62 Downs Road, South Wonston, SO21 3EW
(01962) 880227
Previous Name(s): South Wonston Social Club
Alternative Name(s): South Wonston Social Club
 
Club
Open
 
Image ID 3101 date: 24/06/2020
Suitability comment:
No: Now says 'Drovers' above the door, and social club banner on fence out of date.
 
Photo tips: Entrance Faces N. Best summer evening though it may go into shade then.

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Tichborne — Winchester and North-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
Tichborne Arms, Tichborne  
HAS/00620

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Tichborne Arms, Tichborne
Tichborne, SO24 0NA
(01962) 588346
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1034 date: 11/11/2012
Suitability comment:
No: bad light.
 
Photo tips: Faces NNW. Late summer afternoon / evening

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Winchester — Winchester and North-East
Pub PhotoPubIDPub DetailsType & StatusKey Photo DetailsLinks
King Alfred, Winchester  
HAS/00690

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King Alfred, Winchester
11 Saxon Road, Hyde, Winchester, SO23 7DJ
(01962) 854370
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 3516 date: 11/06/2023
Suitability comment:
No: could do with a blue sky day.
 
Photo tips:

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Willow Tree, Winchester  
HAS/00716

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Willow Tree, Winchester
14 Durngate Terrace, Winchester, SO23 8QX
(01962) 896174
 
Pub
Open
 
Image ID 1935 date: 01/05/2013
Suitability comment:
No: Signage changes
 
Photo tips: Faces E with a N aspect. A sunny morning will be best. The North aspect will be difficult to get any light on.

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We have 43 pubs could do with a new photo, but some of them will need taking on a sunny day with a particular sun angle to get a better shot.

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